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#82208 - 12/19/07 07:44 AM Canda Pays For Illegal Immigrants
United_America United_America Starting to Post Registered: 12/10/07 Posts: 37	I wonder if I can walk across the Canadian border as an illegal American and if they will pay my way for me? This seems like a nice enough family. That is not the point. The point is they are illegals and come with a far greater movment to the US as they now enter into Canada. The crime along the Mexican American border is so bad that even the Mexican Americans are now standing up saying enough is enough. They are being called Mexican American racists against Mexicans from Mexico now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxkGmFnbqH4 Now for La Raza preaching Islam on American soil. Do you guys think this is okay? I would just like to gather thoughts. This video is from Los Angeles. Thanks for your time and thoughts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9pr0SlZHkY Edited by United_America (12/19/07 07:45 AM)
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#82213 - 12/19/07 08:04 AM Re: Canda Pays For Illegal Immigrants [Re: United_America]
United_America United_America Starting to Post Registered: 12/10/07 Posts: 37	I made a mistake. It is not Islam they are preaching it's Aztlan. Sorry for the confusion. I was wondering about that. I am very glad my ears were wrong. Edited by United_America (12/19/07 08:06 AM)
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#82228 - 12/19/07 09:00 AM Re: Canda Pays For Illegal Immigrants [Re: United_America]
A.J. Drew A.J. Drew It's not Kool Aid It's Blue Zombie Post Maddam Registered: 08/15/06 Posts: 4860 Loc: Ohio	On the first link, you have got to be kidding me. I think ABC news should be ashamed of its attempt at causing US citizens to be upset with Canada. Note how it said illegal imigrants into the US are 'escaping' to Canada. Escaping? Now waite a minute. Their crime is not being in the US in a legal capacity. So the move to Canada because US imigration law is too strict on them and we should be angry because they have complied with US laws by leaving? Now then, Canadian law seems to encourage and welcome such imigration. Why would a US citizen be upset about it if not for a racist ajenda? _________________________ My goal is to become Einherjar or die trying.
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#82232 - 12/19/07 09:10 AM Re: Canda Pays For Illegal Immigrants [Re: A.J. Drew]
United_America United_America Starting to Post Registered: 12/10/07 Posts: 37	I do not understand what racism has to do with the swarm of illegal aliens across the boarders that are now going onto the Canada. Is there something about the word illegal that needs to be defined?
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#82538 - 12/20/07 11:13 PM Re: Canda Pays For Illegal Immigrants [Re: United_America]
A.J. Drew A.J. Drew It's not Kool Aid It's Blue Zombie Post Maddam Registered: 08/15/06 Posts: 4860 Loc: Ohio	United_America asked: "Is there something about the word illegal that needs to be defined?" Did you listen to the same video that you posted? Mexican imigrants are "escaping" US imigration laws by imigrating to Canada where the law permits such imigration. No, Mexicans who had FORMERLY imigrated illegaly are moving to Canada where their imigration is permitted under law. Thus, they are no longer "illegal imigrants". And for this action of choosing to comply with US imigration law which basicly says the can't be here, you call them 'illegal' and the report says they are 'escaping'. Did you read the title of the post you made? "Canada Pays for Illegal Immigrants". If the law does not make them "illegal" what does? Oh ye, being Mexican. Edited by A.J. Drew (12/20/07 11:14 PM) _________________________ My goal is to become Einherjar or die trying.
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#82544 - 12/20/07 11:59 PM Re: Canda Pays For Illegal Immigrants [Re: A.J. Drew]
Sorcha Sorcha Might Move In Registered: 12/13/07 Posts: 146 Loc: Canada	I have to say that as a Canadian I like that we welcome others into canada. I mean hell if you aren't native american, basically everyone in Canada and the US for that matter comes from an immigrant family somewhere down the line. And Canada certainly in the past has its dark history of nasty immigration laws, such as the shameful head tax on Chinese immigrants. New cultures interest me greatly and with some of the things going on in other countries, it is nice to know that Canada welcomes those who come seeking work, freedom for persecution and in some cases even death. However the other side of that is that our laws can be very lax in some ways. Recently in Toronto there has been a huge issue made of an absolutely horrible killing of a 16 year old girl. http://www.nationalpost.com/most_popular/story.html?id=164938 She was from a Muslim family, the father wanted her to wear the hijab, she didnt want o, after leaving home to live with a friend due to many domestic disputes she returned to get some clothes and ended up getting strangled by him resulting in her death. I believe that whatever your cultural and religious beliefs are, it should be made VERY clear to any immigrant that if you want to come to Canada you must obey Canadian laws, spousal abuse, child abuse, forced marriages, mercy killings, illegal weapon traficing, child sex trade and the like are not tollerated. No different that when visiting another country that has very strict laws and cultural beleifs with harsh punishments it is made clear that as a visitor you are expected to obey those laws no matter what your beleifs are. I also see in some places a problem particularly in schools because of the very touchy area of tollerance and acceptance of cultural beliefs and multy culturalism, that even where a problem is obvious or well known there is often a reluctance to get involved for fear of being labled "racists" or for "discrimination on basis of cultural beliefs" I love cultural diversity but when it starts putting others lives in danger or harming others there is a problem. In the case of the Mexicans, if they are coming to Canada for the honest opportunity of work and a better life and are working towards becoming Canadian citizens then I don't see a problem, so long as they are willing to obey Canadian law, however if they are coming to participate in things like weapon or human trafficing, or any of the other common offenses discovered at our border... then theres a problem. And our immigration laws are certainly far from perfect, but who's are? _________________________ "If I gave you two a box of Nerds and you ate them would it be considered cannibalism?"
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#82553 - 12/21/07 02:37 AM Re: Canda Pays For Illegal Immigrants [Re: Sorcha]
A.J. Drew A.J. Drew It's not Kool Aid It's Blue Zombie Post Maddam Registered: 08/15/06 Posts: 4860 Loc: Ohio	Sorcha - You sound like a person I would call a modern day folkist, feeling that the culture of your people is where you are now and where your lineage starts as you look backwards. Some people call it nationalism, but it would be hard for me to care less about a government as long as the government doesnt get the way of liberty. I call it folkism because these people, these imigrants, these mutts of the world are my folk / my people. I am glad to have met a Canadian that seems to feel the same way about Canadian culture that I do about American culture. The folkish ways of our people have value even if we are a bunch of mutts. Edited by A.J. Drew (12/21/07 02:38 AM) _________________________ My goal is to become Einherjar or die trying.
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#82670 - 12/21/07 10:42 PM Re: Canda Pays For Illegal Immigrants [Re: A.J. Drew]
Sorcha Sorcha Might Move In Registered: 12/13/07 Posts: 146 Loc: Canada	thanks $\:\)$ and yes its important to know where you come from and your roots, people seem to have a sense of entitlement if they are a few generations of "born here" they see others as "other". Yet I know my great grandparents were poor Irish and Scots. They were the "others" the working class, impoverished, had little education and some of them were probably illiterate and had "poor English" having grown up with a local dialect. Im descended from those immigrants, what I have started with them, were all mutts somewhere, and if my ancestors had a right to come here to seek out work and a new living so to todays people. $\:\)$ _________________________ "If I gave you two a box of Nerds and you ate them would it be considered cannibalism?"
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#82685 - 12/22/07 06:41 AM Re: Canda Pays For Illegal Immigrants [Re: Sorcha]
A.J. Drew A.J. Drew It's not Kool Aid It's Blue Zombie Post Maddam Registered: 08/15/06 Posts: 4860 Loc: Ohio	Sorcha - I am not sure if you have observed the same, but I have observed that people in the US are not as interested in their US roots as they are in their lineage prior to the migration to this country. Additionaly, they do not seem too interested in migrations that occured prior to that one. That is to say, if a person's kin migrated to the US from Germany, all that person seems to care about is his or her line in Germany. Not before Germany. Not after Germany. I first observed this amoung African American friends. One, in particular, learned that a relative was documented to have been a Buffalo Soldier who later married a Native American woman, one whose tribe the Buffalo Soldier reportedly faught. He didn't seem to care about the native blood or the relative's participation in the military, much less how they came to be wed. All he cared about was Africa. It all seemed very odd. I would think that if you were researching your lineage, you would be interested in the "line"age and not one point on the line. _________________________ My goal is to become Einherjar or die trying.
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#82739 - 12/22/07 09:49 PM Re: Canda Pays For Illegal Immigrants [Re: A.J. Drew]
Sorcha Sorcha Might Move In Registered: 12/13/07 Posts: 146 Loc: Canada	yes it is true, I do see that alot, I also see people as seeing that you can be one but not the other. Alot of people complain when someone says "I am chinease-canadian" ect. They argue that now that you are in canada you should just be Canadian, give up your roots. Just as they seem fixated on only one area of descent. It is sad that we limit ourselves and give up new opportunities to learn about new ties and connections we have. _________________________ "If I gave you two a box of Nerds and you ate them would it be considered cannibalism?"
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